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		<title>Spanish Supercup Final Thoughts: What Did You Expect?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right now, Barcelona is gaining more silverware than Oneida. After their form in EVERY competition last year, and after showing good preseason form, I was not surprised when images like the one to the left popped up on the internet. Athletic were already down on aggregate, they started a reserve team, and were playing against [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://bilbao.theoffside.com/files/2009/08/barcatrophy.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="394" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-240" />Right now, Barcelona is gaining more silverware than <a href="http://www.oneida.com/">Oneida</a>. After their form in EVERY competition last year, and after showing good preseason form, I was not surprised when images like the one to the left popped up on the internet. Athletic were already down on aggregate, they started a reserve team, and were playing against Barcelona at home. It would have taken a miracle for players like Etxeita, Gabilondo, and Toquero to compete with the likes of Puyol, Messi, and Ibrahimovic, but there was no sun magically breaking through the clouds yesterday- just a 3-0 drubbing.<span id="more-239"></span></p>
<p>Now, while I may sound bitter about the loss, I&#8217;m really not. First off, yesterday&#8217;s match marked <a href="http://bilbao.theoffside.com/team-news/live-blog-super-cup-second-leg.html">my first real live blog</a> (hopefully the first of many), and I also went over to the <a href="http://barcelona.theoffside.com/barcelona/supercup-part-ii-liveblog.html">Barcelona live blog</a> (go through the chat and find the story about how Lionel Messi got me laid) and chatted it up a bit, which also was fun. Next, Athletic started a second-team yesterday. The only guys in the team who aren&#8217;t usually bench players were Iraizoz and Iraola. It&#8217;s clear that Athletic weren&#8217;t playing for the win so if they accepted defeat beforehand, who am I to be angry about a loss? Finally, as I&#8217;ve said before, the Super Cup is really an official kickoff to the season with little meaning. I would have loved to see the team lift the trophy, but am able to tolerate the fact that they lost (well, I wouldn&#8217;t have been able to tolerate it if they lost to Real Madrid- but you&#8217;ll get to see how I feel about them as the season goes on).</p>
<p>So I said I&#8217;m not bitter, but that does not mean I am not concerned. Yesterday, Barcelona dominated possession from early and looked as though they were playing to wear out the Athletic defense. They succeeded by the second half, as there seemed to be no fight left in the team. Seriously, you would think that reserve players would try to prove themselves on a stage like this against a top team but no, they just let Barcelona take the wind out of them. Another problem was that when Athletic did gain possession, they squandered it by poor passing. I doubt this will be as serious of a problem with more first-teamers on the pitch (and against teams that aren&#8217;t Barcelona), but it raises concerns off the bench or if there are any long-term injury issues. Finally, the defense looked utterly worn out and confused by the second half, and the midfielders had trouble closing down the opposition. Especially in the second half, Los Leones just looked worn out and bewildered. Ustaritz was terrible and gifted a goal to Bojan, while Iraola tried too hard to play down the right wing and left holes on the right side which Barcelona played right into more than once. Toquero is still relatively useless. I hope that these kinks can be worked out before the season (or at least early into it), but we&#8217;ll have to see.</p>
<p>The only real bright spots were that De Cerio made his comeback (he made some decent runs, but terrible passing meant that he gained no chances) and Iraizoz looks good. Etxeita also played great as a hard-man, at least for the first 30 minutes. Oh well, when he&#8217;ll probably be used as a sub anyway, I guess he didn&#8217;t need to play like that for the full 90.</p>
<p>For more match details, read through <a href="http://">yesterday&#8217;s live blog</a>- there is much more detail (and maybe humor) than I can think up right now.<br />
<img src="http://bilbao.theoffside.com/files/2009/08/consolation.jpg" alt="" width="499" height="333" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-241" /></p>
<p>Speaking of the season, the first game is on Sunday against Espanyol! Expect to see a pre-season wrap-up/season preview sometime this week. Before that, though, it&#8217;s another Europa league game at Tromso.</p>
<p>Oh, and, one more thing: I leave for school tomorrow. Don&#8217;t be surprised if my posts become a little more sporadic for the next few weeks as I get into the swing of things. Once I do, I will be able to post just about as frequently as I do now.</p>
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		<title>Athletic v Barça Preview:  A Meeting of the Minds Over Java</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Elisa</dc:creator>
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DAVID VS GOLIATH?



Two guys having a coffee break in a crowded café’… One of them support the Los Leones and the other is a fan of the Blaugrana.
 
Ramzi: “Hey Elisa How is it going in the Basque Camp? &#8221;


Elisa: “Well, Athletic continues the fearsome foursome run. This time they face FC Barcelona at El [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;font-weight: bold" align="center"><span style="font-size: 180%">DAVID VS GOLIATH?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify">Two guys having a coffee break in a crowded café’… One of them support the <em>Los Leones</em> and the other is a fan of the<em> Blaugrana.</em></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><strong><em>Ramzi:</em> </strong>“Hey Elisa How is it going in the Basque Camp? &#8221;</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify"><strong><em>Elisa:</em></strong> “Well, Athletic continues the fearsome foursome run. This time they face FC Barcelona at El Catedral, what used to be called the Fortress. Athletic has gotten off to a very slow start with only five points and two losses in their last two games., What about the Catalans? “</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify"><strong><em>Ramzi: </em></strong>“Barcelona is on the way up! Did you see our come back against Espanyol? Betis? Shakhtar? Did you see how we smashed Atletico Madrid?! We are the best! Who is next? Athletic Bilbao? We will have ANOTHER SCORING CARNIVAL NO DOUBT! Hm… that&#8217;s the atmosphere in the Barca camp…and that&#8217;s exactly what makes me worried… the over confidence Virus is filling the air! The way you talk about athletic make it feel as if <span> </span>its time to pack the bags and prepare for a relegation battle? Already?!”</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><strong><em>Elisa:</em></strong> “Well no, it&#8217;s still early days and if you recall last year, Athletic started off extremely slow, but went on a dynamite run after the Winter break, so now is not the time to panic. Yes the socios are upset, they expected Europe, a solid start (after a loooong pre-season) and the return of the Copa del Rey. They are all still possible, but the play on the pitch needs to improve, here and now. The team needs to play as a cohesive unit and when the going gets tough&#8230; you know the cliche.”</p>
<p style="text-align: justify"><strong><em>Ramzi:</em></strong> “ Yes I know, Elisa, May be that’s why I think Barcelona need to take this game seriously, No doubt Athletic can&#8217;t match the quality of the Catalan giant, not at the moment anyway, but what about Numancia? In brief this game must be taken seriously or else…The guys of the Basque are well known for their dedication and fighting spirit, they will not welcome Barcelona with chains of roses, Nah&#8230; This is not Hawaii! This is   San Mamés, if you know what I mean… Barcelona will play against a team that has a point to prove after a bad start of the season, a team that may play a very defensive game and count on counter attacks, yea…Barcelona worst scenario”</p>
<p><strong><em>Elisa:</em></strong> “Here&#8217;s our record at home against the Catalans:</p>
<p>2007-08 <strong>1-1</strong><br />
<span style="color: red">2006-07 <strong>1-3</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: darkgreen">2005-06 <strong>3-1</strong> </span><br />
2004-05 <strong>1-1</strong><br />
<span style="color: red">2003-04 <strong>0-1</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify">OK nothing stellar, but we do have a fighting chance of making it a game. Rumor has it that Pep may rest Messi, due to the long flight from Argentina and upcoming Champions League games, and apparently Xavi&#8217;s hurt, but ya never know. They have a solid team with an extremely deep bench and they are on fire.”</p>
<p style="text-align: justify"><strong><em>Ramzi:</em></strong> “Even though Barcelona usually does not enjoy a nice come back after international break, but it will not be the case this week. I have all the confidence that Barcelona can win this game, REALLY win it– another scoring carnival! But that will only happen if we saw another copy of that wild performance we enjoyed against Atletico, how do you think Athletic will play their cards?”</p>
<p style="text-align: justify"><strong><em>Elisa:</em></strong>”Well its Joaquin Caparrós&#8217; 50th game with the team and he hasn&#8217;t come out with a squad yet, because well, it&#8217;s murky. The head honcho is unsure of his midfield. Javi Martinez looks like he is recuperating quite nicely and may be available for this weekend&#8217;s game. But sheesh, he was supposed to be out for three to four weeks due to a knee injury. Easy now, the kid is not superman! Joseba Exteberría, El Gallo, looks like he has recovered as well. But I would assume that both players will start on the bench and only brought in if needed.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">So there are two rules of thought for the starting 11 &#8211; 4-5-1 or 4-4-2? Here we tinker again! Athletic has had a lot of problems with a holey defense, so a 4-5-1 could be the way to go. But the goal production has also proved an issue, so there is an argument to go with the old 4-4-2. Athletic needs to impose a very physical game, clog the midfield and pathways. If you allow Barça to play their fast passing game, well&#8230; game over. Frankly, I would be happy with a point or a low scoring loss, no more embarrassing 4 nil games puleeze.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the potential line up with 4-4-2: In Goal &#8211; Iraizoz, In Defense &#8211; Iraola, Aitor Ocio, Amorebieta, Balenziaga. In Midfield &#8211; Gurpegi, Orbaiz, Yeste, David Lopez Upfront &#8211; Susaeta or Gabilondo and Fernando Llorente</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">For 4-5-1: In Goal and Defense no change, In midfield move Susaeta back on the right wing and play Llorente upfront as the lone striker.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">There are other iterations, I can go on. Most probably Caparrós won&#8217;t make up his mind until match day. I feel that Athletic needs to go with experience especially upfront and in midfield. That&#8217;s why Ion Velez and Iturraspe are not listed above. Being a fiscally prudent club with a very strict Basque policy makes it very difficult for the club to be successful. The key is to play as a collective unit with a system or strategy that picks at the weaknesses of each opponent. I don&#8217;t think that we are there yet, but I see the potential. Let&#8217;s go at the Cules with some high balls and some very physical play. Still, I don&#8217;t think we have a chance in hell of winning the game. I just want a respectable result and an inspired battle, what about Barcelona?”</p>
<p style="text-align: justify"><strong><em>Ramzi:</em></strong> “Its easier to guess the lottery numbers Elisa, Pep is an unpredictable coach, specially for a game that introduce a champions league week, so don&#8217;t blame me if I became more confusing while trying to figure out the right selection, but let&#8217;s make an attempt to read how pep and co do the decision making and pick their starting eleven.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify"><strong><em>Ramzi moving the coffee cups aside and opening a roll of papers on the table, While Elisa move his eyes around the place ,I don’t know this guy, what the hell is he doing?!!</em></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify">The typical, automatic, theoretical –put any other weird description you want – selection is:</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">Valdes, Alves, Puyol, Pique, Abidal – Busquets, Xavi, Hleb – Messi, Eto&#8217;o, and Iniesta.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">In the perfect world this is the selection recommended, seal a result then make your substitutions getting Caceres in for Puyol to rest the captain for the Champions league game, or for Abidal to figure out how he can perform on the left, and then use Bojan to save Messi batteries for the following battles.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">But some factors will shake that up, first, it may be too early for Hleb to start, the Iceland could have been the player who take Hleb role then, but again, Gudi is not ready &#8211; injured- and pep may give the priority for the players who had no international games to play, or came back earlier than the others, and based on that, he may pick Rafa Márquez, and Seydou Keita, as starters instead of Puyol/Abidal and Hleb.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">Touré Yaya came back early too but has picked up a minor injury in the internal meniscus of his right knee. It is not yet known whether the injury is serious enough to cast any doubt on his presence in the game at San Mamés on Sunday – as mentioned on the Club official site&#8230; So if he is ready he may take Busquets place.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">Tactically, if Bojan or Hleb started the game instead of Messi, we will have no tactical changes, the same 4-3 -3 with Bojan playing as a second striker beside Eto&#8217;o, Iniesta on the left and Alves running on the right flank.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">What about my favorite selection? I will be more unpredictable than pep, and in the photo below is a sample of the Offense selection that may work for this game, keeping in mind that Messi played two internationals in South America and may be there is a risk of using him from the start.</p>
<p style="text-align: center" align="center"><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GgTqVYHTS7w/SPheVy7lt2I/AAAAAAAAAA0/rvrY1j_hfqk/s1600-h/Barcelona.JPG"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px;text-align: center" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GgTqVYHTS7w/SPheVy7lt2I/AAAAAAAAAA0/rvrY1j_hfqk/s400/Barcelona.JPG" border="0" alt="" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify">As for the defense, when losing the ball Alves bounce back to do his role as right back, the trio Puyol, Pique and Marquez are appropriate for this game, they will form a solid back line but most importantly they will have their saying to cause threat through set pieces – corners – which may prove being the key to unlock Athletic defensive game. But if Pep wants the two fullbacks to go forward instead of having three central backs, then Abidal is a starter. Offensively, If Hleb is not completely fit, then Keita will be the guy for the mission, unless if Pep wanted an Ultra offensive game using Iniesta in the middle and Bojan as a third striker, even though knowing that Bilbao fans are well known for putting lot of pressure on the visitors, its better to start Bojan on the bench”</p>
<p style="text-align: justify"><strong><em>Elisa:</em></strong> “Oh and a last minute referee change. Mejuto Gonzalez got injured during the International play, so Undiano Mallenco will be the man. Don&#8217;t worry, even though he is a Basque ref, Athletic will still get no favors.”</p>
<p style="text-align: justify"><strong><em>Ramzi:</em></strong> “Good luck, Elisa, I think you will need it <img src='http://bilbao.theoffside.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  “</p>
<p><strong>A big thank you to <a href="http://fcbtransfers.blogspot.com/">Ramzi</a> from fcbtransfers.blogspot.com for sharing the duties and discussing our teams  &#8211; cross blogs!</strong></p>
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